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What Feature Do You Find Most Useless on Your Ride?

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We've asked about the feature that gets you all excited; now, let's hear about the one that, in your opinion, is completely useless.

~MR 😊
 
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Those stupid LED strips that extend the daylights over the grill. I think they're awesome, I think they're somewhat unique despite other cars out there doing the same.

But KIA shit the bed on this one. They DON'T automatically turn on with the daylights. You have to physically twist the headlight knob two notches to get them to turn on. Or leave your headlights in Auto all the time. But that's not intuitive.

They should be on any time the daylights are on, which is always. Two they don't match up perfectly with the color and intensity of the daylights.

The whole point of them was to make the top-tier Seltos' immediately recognizable. KIA even 'featured' this feature as styling awesomeness. But KIA blew it and don't put them on by default making it a dumb feature. Way to go whoever it was that failed to read the memo you blew it.
 
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Oh I got a good one. In the Heads-Up display, it shows a little traffic sign that tells you the speed limit of the road you're on. But KIA/Hyundai/MapNSoft's data is so GROSSLY outdated or simply wrong it's virtually untrustable.

We're not talking little outta the way roads, we're talking major corridors. The road near my home is 50kph. MapNSoft has it as 80 kph, I don't think it was ever 80 kph as it's residential. Another was once 60 kph but changed to 50 kph more than 5 years ago, data is still wrong. Looking at just the corridors, and major thoroughfares, 40% of them are incorrect.

If the data was correct, it'd be a killer feature but as it is, it's just a constant reminder that Kia/Hyundai group choose the WRONG navigation partner in MapNSoft.

But oh wait, you say, you can report incorrect data. Yup. But a street four blocks long is segmented into 40 or more segments which EACH and every SEGMENT has to be reported separately. There's no way I can see to select multiple segments to report a problem with map data.
 
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You’re right. The mapping speed limits are pretty bad, and it seems to take ages before new roading is added. Especially new housing subdivisions. Just yesterday I did an update, then went for a drive to check several lengths of road previously wrong to see if corrected. No, but something had happened. It was altered, but still not correct. Admittedly a secondary road, but one that has been signed as 80kph for years. Previous update put it from 80, and correct, to 50kph for the entire length. This update now makes it 100kph the entire length. The signs are still 80kph as always. However it does appear correctly on most more major roads.
I wonder why these car makers don’t just pay a licence to Google or Apple..? Hang on, I don’t think they list the speed limits. do they..? Tom Tom do, and always seem pretty up to date.
 
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Yes, no question re the Seltos Nav giving posted speed signs - the issue we are discussing is the accuracy in terms of uptodateness, (if I could coin that term), of the actual reading. Often what your nav is indicating is not what the signs beside the road are saying. That's the problem. However, probably fair to say, on most roads one travels the speed zones are correct, but just be careful, as sometimes they are not.
 
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Re: MapNSoft ... make it easier to submit corrections and I'll make them. But the way they have it it would take hours to correct a few roads. The funny thing, a number of our major thoroughfares are labeled as gravel. Hmm.

I can't believe no one's bitched about the lack of wireless on the Premium options 10.25" but then we're complaining about features the Seltos ACTUALLY has.
 
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Re: MapNSoft ... make it easier to submit corrections and I'll make them. But the way they have it it would take hours to correct a few roads. The funny thing, a number of our major thoroughfares are labeled as gravel. Hmm.

I can't believe no one's bitched about the lack of wireless on the Premium options 10.25" but then we're complaining about features the Seltos ACTUALLY has.
Yeah, if I had to complain about features it doesn't have...
My top three would be:
1: Memory Seats - this is pretty much a "must have" for me buying a vehicle. The fact that I leased this one and I knew I wasn't keeping past 3 years meant I let it slide this time.

2: Power rear lift gate - They did fix this one in the upcoming refresh, so at least they're paying a attention to the customers a bit.

3: Side mirrors tilt down on reverse - If you have never owned a vehicle with this feature, I cannot stress enough how invaluable it is. Once you've had it, you know...(even my 25 year old Audi had this feature)
 
#14 ·
Speed, the top models here in Oz have the memory function to driver's seat and the power tailgate. As to the tilting down mirrors...now they are both convex for wider angle, and make things look further away than they are - added to the excellent rear camera vision in reverse, I suspect that function now rendered obsolete..? It's tricky trying to look at mirrors and the centre reversing screen at the same time, anyway.
 
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I hear what you're saying Speed, and admit to having messed up my wheel alignment several times in the past reversing into a parallel park and scraping the kerb. My 4WD GT4 was rather prone to that, as the rear alignment was crucial. However, the rear camera screen with the helpful coloured lines the Seltos has does make avoiding that much easier.
 
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Sorry, SHCS, I was wrong. Those extra light strips that almost reach the Kia badge only come on when the headlights are on - not with the DRLs only. I guess they wanted to not have too much lighting up front during daylight running. Some folks are already complaining about DRLs 'blinding' them. Can't say they ever bother me...but...?
 
#18 ·
The warning that the car in front of you is pulling away. While waiting to turn left across traffic, the guy in front of me is out in the middle of the intersection. He gets a chance and turns left, but I can clearly see I have to keep waiting. Car flips out beeping. Turned that feature off Day 1 owning the car.
 
#22 ·
Interior 'mood' lighting that's so dim it's virtually undetectable. Audi does this right. The footwells light up, the LED accents are bright. With KIA I actually have to point them out to occupants. They don't even notice them. That was money Kia coulda spent on something else. Could have dumped the ambient mood sounds like rain or forest stream with the mood lighting. If the mood lighting was done right, the way Audi/VW do it then it would have been a slick feature for date night, but the highest brightness is what the lowest ought to have been. It's just too dim to even be visible unless in absolute darkness.
 
#23 ·
Have to agree with the above, although I suppose the one plus is the light intensity is so low, even left active all the time, it is never likely to be intrusive. After a time it is a bit of a gimmick, and many would turn it off anyway. So, yes, I guess they could have saved the money. Sadly, it's the keeping up with the Jones thing that drives it. One motoring journalists's review here in Aus of a lower model, panned it mainly because it did not have this feature - go figure...
 
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As SHCS said, it's so underwhelming, you hardly notice it in the driver's seat. It's a bit more visible to the passenger, as the main LED is a strip along the front of the glove-box. Then there's some flashing down near the front speakers somewhere, and that's it. And yeah, it has to be quite dark to see it.
 
#28 ·
I'm about to write an angry post. But I'll say it here too, either there is something terribly wrong with my vehicle, or the Seltos has THE WORST ABS I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED SINCE THE INCEPTION OF ABS. It's gonna get me or a family member killed. It's bordering on negligence if it's not completely negligent.
 
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When it kicks in it does little to stop me it has me rolling more than it's breaking and I end up halfway into the intersection. We're talking at slow speeds because I've already been breaking as I'm coming up to the light, we're talking sub-10-kilometer speeds. None of the cars behind me are sliding. I don't think the intersection was even slippery. I think the ABS is just doing a shit job of it.

The wheels and tires came off my Suzuki SX4, so I know what proper ABS should do with these tires. They're Nokian Hakkapellita R3 with 10/32 tread, they're sold with 11/32 tread so there's plenty of life left in them. The stopping distance when ABS is activated is four times what it would take Suzuki's ABS to stop the vehicle. The only reason I haven't rear-ended someone yet is that I typically drive with a lot more distance between me and the car in front of me. Always have.

I'm pretty pissed at the monent.
 
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When it kicks in it does little to stop me it has me rolling more than it's breaking and I end up halfway into the intersection. We're talking at slow speeds because I've already been breaking as I'm coming up to the light, we're talking sub-10-kilometer speeds. None of the cars behind me are sliding. I don't think the intersection was even slippery. I think the ABS is just doing a shit job of it.

The wheels and tires came off my Suzuki SX4, so I know what proper ABS should do with these tires. They're Nokian Hakkapellita R3 with 10/32 tread, they're sold with 11/32 tread so there's plenty of life left in them. The stopping distance when ABS is activated is four times what it would take Suzuki's ABS to stop the vehicle. The only reason I haven't rear-ended someone yet is that I typically drive with a lot more distance between me and the car in front of me. Always have.

I'm pretty pissed at the monent.
Dear SHCS, just curious...as I have never even come close to activating the ABS in my Seltos, which is now 3 years old, how is it that you have activated it several times now..? Unexpected stopping of the car in front..? Surely at speeds as low as the 10kph you mention, the ABS would not even activate..? It sounds more like you have some other brake issues as well. I'd certainly take the car to an authorised vehicle testing station, explain the issue, and get them to really test it, with all their gear. Just saying'...
 
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@Speedtek22 ... See that's just it. It's kicking in when I don't think it ought to be. I don't think it was even slippery in the intersection today. I think it kicks in FAR too aggressively and the roll break roll break is all roll and no break.

@peter47 ... It's not that the roads are slippery rolling up to a stop sign. Its the 15 feet before the stop sign where people accelerate away spinning their 2wd wheels and polishing up the 3 inches of ice Canadians drive on between Nov and April. So you only hit that polish 15 feet before your stop line. So when you hit it you're barely rolling when you hit it. Typically you're barely rolling so it doesn't trigger but once in a while it will, whether you're in a KIA, Suzuki or whatever. My frustration is in any other car the ABS blips but makes very little difference to your stopping distance.

ABS cycles brakes and rolling. This is so that you retain the ability to steer while sliding. My Suzuki's (10 and 20 years old) cycled the ABS faaaar faster than the KIA and while the Suzukis were 75% brake and 25% roll, the KIA seems to be the opposite. It seems to favor roll to braking. So you just roll along with very little braking. I feel, at least in my Seltos, the Roll bias is far too prominent and allows me to roll far further than if the ABS hadn't engaged.
 
#35 ·
Ah, Je comprend. Commiserations. Maybe in your part of the world it would be helpful to be able to switch off the ABS in really slippery conditions. It is well accepted ABS is not helpful when it is very slippery. Having the diff lock on and using 4 wheel power and engine braking would work better, and so a good stomp on the brakes could help cut through a mushy surface and down to a firmer one..? However, with black ice, nothing is a really good answer, except studded tyres maybe..?
 
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