This is sad to hear, but not surprising overall. The DCT is a far more sport/driver oriented transmission than the Seltos target audience is used to (for the most part).Like someone said, it doesn't happen very often but from what I see, the 2023 Seltos is going back to a standard automatic transmission....which is what I would prefer also.
Hey Kia, if you need a tester in extreme dry heat, I'll do that for you!!
You're right. However, the TCU programming is VERY conservative on the Seltos. Slow and gentle shifts across the board. I mean, you can't even take advantage of brake boosting with the DCT, haha. It's pretty dumb. I don't understand why they bothered to put it in this car, because the way they programmed it doesn't take advantage of ANY of the inherent strengths of a DCT. Lol.This is sad to hear, but not surprising overall. The DCT is a far more sport/driver oriented transmission than the Seltos target audience is used to (for the most part).
Slap the shifter over into Sport mode, it’s not conservative…just need to drive it right…You're right. However, the TCU programming is VERY conservative on the Seltos. Slow and gentle shifts across the board. I mean, you can't even take advantage of brake boosting with the DCT, haha. It's pretty dumb. I don't understand why they bothered to put it in this car, because the way they programmed it doesn't take advantage of ANY of the inherent strengths of a DCT. Lol.
All the reviews of H/K's newer 8spd DCT, on the other hand, seem to show some really exciting performance. But still, I don't think the Seltos would really take advantage of any of it.
Slap the shifter over into Sport mode, it’s not conservative…just need to drive it right…
Lol, it’s not a Golf R…programming or designing the transmission to behave as such in a Seltos would be pretty pointless. It’s plenty snappy for what the vehicle is intended.Oh I have. I guess it's all relative. Ever driven the ZF8 in the Giulia? Or an Audi RS3? Those transmissions blow the H/K 7spd DCT out of the water. Lightning quick shifts in manual mode. Way more performance oriented...and the ZF is a traditional torque converter auto.
Don't get me wrong, the cars that use the ZF8 and Audi's 7spd DCT are in a different league (and price point), but my only point is that's what I think of when I consider what a DCT excels at - and the H/K 7spd DCT is just plain lazy compared to that.
Lol, it’s not a Golf R…programming or designing the transmission to behave as such in a Seltos would be pretty pointless. It’s plenty snappy for what the vehicle is intended.
Let's face it, they are more efficient and will get better fuel mileage than a traditional torque converter. I think that may be what the end goal was in trying to keep the 1.6 Turbo as fuel efficient as possible and still having a sportier feel.I mean.....that's exactly my point? Any type of DCT isn't needed for this car. A torque converted auto would be even better (yet still be "sporty") - I figure Kia only used the DCT due to packaging. They probably don't have a torque converted auto tranny that would fit or be modern enough to meet longevity or gas mileage targets.
Oh well. I'm beating a dead horse. Take care.
I'm in Oz, and my Seltos is the top 2020 model here with the 1.6 turbo and DCT. I grew up on manuals, but loved autos when they became more available. I drove a Celica GT4 4WD turbo (rally model) for 28 years, and loved it but my only regret was the manual change was not slick, but there was no auto option. But I have never loved an auto as much as I love the DCT in this GT-line Seltos. It is smooth, quick, (even in the Eco mode), and in the Normal and Sport modes absolutely amazing, and I'm hard to please. They are so good I seldom drag the shifter across to the 'manual' position, other than sometimes in steepish descents. I find it hard to relate to your comments, unless the US models get an inferior set-up..?I mean.....that's exactly my point? Any type of DCT isn't needed for this car. A torque converted auto would be even better (yet still be "sporty") - I figure Kia only used the DCT due to packaging. They probably don't have a torque converted auto tranny that would fit or be modern enough to meet longevity or gas mileage targets.
Oh well. I'm beating a dead horse. Take care.
As I said in your other post...couldn't agree more.I'm in Oz, and my Seltos is the top 2020 model here with the 1.6 turbo and DCT. I grew up on manuals, but loved autos when they became more available. I drove a Celica GT4 4WD turbo (rally model) for 28 years, and loved it but my only regret was the manual change was not slick, but there was no auto option. But I have never loved an auto as much as I love the DCT in this GT-line Seltos. It is smooth, quick, (even in the Eco mode), and in the Normal and Sport modes absolutely amazing, and I'm hard to please. They are so good I seldom drag the shifter across to the 'manual' position, other than sometimes in steepish descents. I find it hard to relate to your comments, unless the US models get an inferior set-up..?
See my reply to firefox111. What do you think on that issue..?As I said in your other post...couldn't agree more.
My experience here in Canada pretty much mirrors yours...(especially because, in a mirror...you are driving on the wrong side)
Lol…I don’t have any complaints with my headlights…they seem to be aimed fine.See my reply to firefox111. What do you think on that issue..?
