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Im over and it!!! Im surprised that i can even access the settings without first typing out the command c:\>settings
Im upgrading.... and im irritated....so i just bought a $1k sound system 馃ぃ
First thing to go is the touchscreen....
Has anybody taken it apart yet?? Wiring diagrams are hard to find ...the dash retrofit is going to be a nightmare!!!! Any and all info will be gratefully appreciated !!!! ( I'll share pics when Im done with my temper tantrum project)

thanks in advance y'all
 

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You will likely lose most functionality of the safety assist systems as well as lighting, locking, and other controls - and absolutely void your factory warranty. I would advise against this.

Android head units work for older vehicles but finding one that integrates into the canbus system is probably impossible. Even if there is a unit for a different Kia/Hyundai vehicle, you will get fatal system problems with the Seltos. I haven鈥檛 seen any interfaces for the Seltos.


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Also, what did you find for a wiring harness with your audio upgrade? I haven鈥檛 seen anything available yet for this head unit. Let alone an accurate pinout

Edit: to add, I don鈥檛 understand your statement regarding entering a command for settings. This system will absolutely not allow root access when a user hooks in. You say you have to access root (C:\) but that鈥檚 a Windows command - not usable within a car on a proprietary OS.
 

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Yeah, the infotainment system is more or less the hub of the vehicle whether you like it or not. It鈥檚 also probably one of the best out there. Taking it apart and/or removing it is asking for problems. It鈥檚 tedious to get car manufacturers to stand by warranties as it is. If you mess with this, you will certainly be voiding all that. Not to mention the functionality of the features the infotainment system has to offer in its own right.

This isn鈥檛 the 90鈥檚 or early 2000鈥檚 when you could just swap out your factory stereo unit for something of your choice..
 

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You will likely lose most functionality of the safety assist systems as well as lighting, locking, and other controls - and absolutely void your factory warranty. I would advise against this.

Android head units work for older vehicles but finding one that integrates into the canbus system is probably impossible. Even if there is a unit for a different Kia/Hyundai vehicle, you will get fatal system problems with the Seltos. I haven鈥檛 seen any interfaces for the Seltos.


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Ugh!! You are so right!!! In my frustration i never even thought of that.... 馃檹馃徏 Thank you for bringing me back down to earth.....I'll ask my code writing buddies and see if they can speak KIA
 

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Also, what did you find for a wiring harness with your audio upgrade? I haven鈥檛 seen anything available yet for this head unit. Let alone an accurate pinout

Edit: to add, I don鈥檛 understand your statement regarding entering a command for settings. This system will absolutely not allow root access when a user hooks in. You say you have to access root (C:\) but that鈥檚 a Windows command - not usable within a car on a proprietary OS.
Also, what did you find for a wiring harness with your audio upgrade? I haven鈥檛 seen anything available yet for this head unit. Let alone an accurate pinout

Edit: to add, I don鈥檛 understand your statement regarding entering a command for settings. This system will absolutely not allow root access when a user hooks in. You say you have to access root (C:\) but that鈥檚 a Windows command - not usable within a car on a proprietary OS.
馃ぃ馃ぃ.... that was my way of saying the touchscreen has an outdated program...is if i had to use old DOS commands to do anything. Bad joke.... most of the features on the vehicle dont fall into that category of course...It drives itself for crying out loud...
its the platform...which might be more about being used to the user friendly IOS and PC platforms i use everyday

I haven't found a harness yet...or any information really ... but i have no problems with retrofitting a stand alone audio system if that's my only realistic option

thanks again for your perspective
 

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Ugh!! You are so right!!! In my frustration i never even thought of that.... Thank you for bringing me back down to earth.....I'll ask my code writing buddies and see if they can speak KIA
Just so you know, Kia isn鈥檛 gonna release any deeper info about their system. This is their proprietary software (likely licensed to them from a 3rd party) and allowing end users to modify or have access to higher level configuration would jeopardize their standing with NHTSA, which they won鈥檛 want to go near.
 

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Yeah, the infotainment system is more or less the hub of the vehicle whether you like it or not. It鈥檚 also probably one of the best out there. Taking it apart and/or removing it is asking for problems. It鈥檚 tedious to get car manufacturers to stand by warranties as it is. If you mess with this, you will certainly be voiding all that. Not to mention the functionality of the features the infotainment system has to offer in its own right.

This isn鈥檛 the 90鈥檚 or early 2000鈥檚 when you could just swap out your factory stereo unit for something of your choice..
Just so you know, Kia isn鈥檛 gonna release any deeper info about their system. This is their proprietary software (likely licensed to them from a 3rd party) and allowing end users to modify or have access to higher level configuration would jeopardize their standing with NHTSA, which they won鈥檛 want to go near.
Most likely the case indeed .... which brings to mind something else thats frustrating... During an era filled with options, it would take minimal effort to design a removable interface for personal customization to property that my bank and i now own... from a business standpoint the manufacturers are leaving money on the table, and missing a great opportunity from a marketing standpoint... just saying

My rant is over ....

Again...I do appreciate your perspective sir
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Im over and it!!! Im surprised that i can even access the settings without first typing out the command c:\>settings
Im upgrading.... and im irritated....so i just bought a $1k sound system 馃ぃ
First thing to go is the touchscreen....
Has anybody taken it apart yet?? Wiring diagrams are hard to find ...the dash retrofit is going to be a nightmare!!!! Any and all info will be gratefully appreciated !!!! ( I'll share pics when Im done with my temper tantrum project)

thanks in advance y'all
Good luck with that. Your leap into the future is likely to result a longing for the good old days when your car worked properly and you had a warranty that covered the body electronics.
 

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Good luck with that. Your leap into the future is likely to result a longing for the good old days when your car worked properly and you had a warranty that covered the body electronics.
It's really too bad that the owner of the vehicle doesn't have an option to use a different interface .....it would be simple for the manufacturer to allow a program to take over the media portion without effecting its onboard computer
And an opportunity to squeeze more money out of the public
In my opinion
 

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It's really too bad that the owner of the vehicle doesn't have an option to use a different interface .....it would be simple for the manufacturer to allow a program to take over the media portion without effecting its onboard computer
And an opportunity to squeeze more money out of the public
In my opinion
That would mean Kia/Hyundai would have to provide continuous support for the stability of unknown 3rd party software in a vehicle that must also maintain NHTSA regulations. This would be virtually impossible as the first person or group to release an interface would almost definitely prioritize video playback while driving.

The 鈥淪ync Lockpick鈥 system is well known for doing exactly this, but also comes with the cost of victims opening lawsuits against drivers for the modification being installed if they were to be involved in an accident with a citation of distracted driving (almost always reckless endangerment).

Locking systems off from user modification is by no means 鈥渟queezing more money鈥 out of customers. You pay for the system in the vehicle you choose, and that鈥檚 the system you get. If you don鈥檛 like that system, there鈥檚 many other vehicles in the class to choose from. I fail to see extra money going from pocket to pocket in this scenario.

I wouldn鈥檛 want to drive on a road where manufacturers openly support people messing with screens rather than using attentive driving practices. The intention is for Kia to simply abide by the laws that many countries have set in order to ensure traffic safety. Cars are much faster than they were 25 or 50 years ago - I don鈥檛 think we need more toys to play with while driving them.
 

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That would mean Kia/Hyundai would have to provide continuous support for the stability of unknown 3rd party software in a vehicle that must also maintain NHTSA regulations. This would be virtually impossible as the first person or group to release an interface would almost definitely prioritize video playback while driving.

The 鈥淪ync Lockpick鈥 system is well known for doing exactly this, but also comes with the cost of victims opening lawsuits against drivers for the modification being installed if they were to be involved in an accident with a citation of distracted driving (almost always reckless endangerment).

Locking systems off from user modification is by no means 鈥渟queezing more money鈥 out of customers. You pay for the system in the vehicle you choose, and that鈥檚 the system you get. If you don鈥檛 like that system, there鈥檚 many other vehicles in the class to choose from. I fail to see extra money going from pocket to pocket in this scenario.

I wouldn鈥檛 want to drive on a road where manufacturers openly support people messing with screens rather than using attentive driving practices. The intention is for Kia to simply abide by the laws that many countries have set in order to ensure traffic safety. Cars are much faster than they were 25 or 50 years ago - I don鈥檛 think we need more toys to play with while driving them.
Wow... yea thats some glass half empty stuff right there... im not trying to change the world or anything.....
Im just trying to put a different radio in my GF's car for Christmas but.....
Hey thanks for your time
 
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