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Carlinkit 4.0 Wireless | Use: AndroidAuto on Kia's 10.25" Screen | Three Week Update

First. Carlinkit 4.0 as far as I've been able to research is the same as the Carlinkit 3.0, but adds AndroidAuto support as well as CarPlay. So if you're an iPhone guy there's no reason to upgrade to 4.0 if you have the 3.0, best I can tell.

My experience has been using AndroidAuto on Kia's 10.25" screen (I can't comment on the smaller base trim screen). During my first week with the vehicle I used the Wireless Carlinkit. For the second week, I went wired for comparison. And the next week I used the Carlinkit again.


Firstly the screen differences.

Wired.


For those of you using the 'wired' AndroidAuto on the 10.25" you've seen what I mean when I say AndroidAuto operates in a split screen. Default screen below, the active app on the left (in this case Youtube Music) with Google Maps on the right. They're swappable by touching Google Maps.


Wireless Carlinkit Adapter

When you use the wireless Carlinkit that 2/3s screen fills the entire 10.25 screen, with no split screen. You may be like 'oh great, awesome, that's what I wanted in the first place, but understand that it cheats, it 'stretches' the 2/3 screen to fill the screen. Squares appear as rectangles, circles appear elongated like an oval. It's not the end of the world, but it cheapens it a bit and disappoints me. The first screen is the default appearance, the second screen is choosable by selecting an app.



If what I've researched is true this is one area CarPlay handles it better. If what I've read is true CarPlay properly expands the screen when in full screen rather than stretching it out elongating everything. Maybe @Speedtek22 can confirm.

Connection Grievances

As @Speedtek22 has already mentioned the Carlinkit first goes through an initialization before connecting to an Android phone and initializing AndroidAuto. When it works flawlessly this does take some time. 30 seconds isn't uncommon. If that were the case every time I would have no complaints. But it doesn't always work flawlessly.

What I've found is the Carlinkit connects to your phone with both Bluetooth AND WiFi. I think Bluetooth handles things like phone calls and texting, while the AndroidAuto interface operates through WiFi. Could be wrong but that's the feeling I get.

So what I found is, that when I'm leaving the house in the morning, my phone's WiFi is already connected to the house WiFi. This causes some issues with the Carlinkit connecting immediately it seems. As I drive away from the house I lose that 'house' connection and usually by the time I reach the stop sign down the block it's processing its connection to the phone. If that were the only connection grievance I could understand that that is not Carlinkit's fault and proceed with a glowing review with that one little notation that it's not Carlinkit's fault your phone won't release its WiFi connection to the house. Speculation of course but that's the feeling I'm getting. Unfortunately, it's not only leaving the house where the Carlinkit struggles with its connection.

Sometimes it just doesn't auto-connect. No explanation I've found. Sometimes it doesn't initialize the connection at all like it doesn't see the phone. It just sits at this screen ...


Sometimes deselecting the device on the right making go grey rather than red, then reselecting it will trigger the initialization but not always.

Sometimes it begins the initialization only to hang during the attempt.


That sometimes is often. To the point of frustration. I have found the quick solution is to unplug the Carlinkit's USB and plug it back in. Doing that it seems to almost always immediately connect up. But I shouldn't have to do that.

Additional Grievances

Connected wirelessly through the Carlinkit some apps experience momentary hesitations in audio. Primary suspects in my app collection are Audible and Chirp. Both are audiobook platforms, both experience regular and frequent audio hiccups when playing on wireless making those apps nearly unusable. My primary apps that don't appear to be affected would be the Google stuff, specifically YouTube Music and Google Play Books. No issues with those.

Leaving it Plugged In

Leaving it in the always-on USB port. For the two weeks I'd been using the wireless dongle exclusively I left it plugged in 24/7 to the powered USB port in the console. No issues or concerns thus far with battery drain. I've got very little concern there. Longest time between starts, maybe two days. The dongle's power consumption is minuscule. Regardless not concerned.

I originally had concerns about the always-powered port leaving the Carlinkit powered when I leave the car and thus holding on to my phone's Bluetooth and WiFi. That concern was unwarranted. In my experience as soon as the head unit goes off the Carlinkit dongle disconnects from both the phone's WiFi and Bluetooth.

Conclusion

It works. But not 100%. The 'wired' experience in every case, but having to plug it in, is superior. If you're a tech kinda guy and are comfortable fiddling with stuff then give it a try. If you can't figure out how to change the clock on your stove, likely a pass.

This is a relatively new device for Carlinkit. And as far as I know, the previous iterations didn't do AndroidAuto so maybe some growing pains. I did confirm my Carlinkit has the latest firmware. I'm hopeful that they find a solution soon. Suspect they haven't quite figured out 'ultrawide' screens yet. But they're gonna have to soon with so many vehicle displays going either 'ultrawide' or 'tall' form factors.

If anything changes I'll update the post.
 

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I do have a suspicion. During the process of setup the Carlinkit records your vehicle's information as well as 'a' resolution. I noted that when I had it plugged into my computer to perform the software update. You can connect to it's web interface.

My suspicion is that the Carlinkit recognizes it's a Kia Seltos and records a resolution. I suspect it's recording the resolution of the base model's 8" screen. Again, completely speculation.


Okay so I confirmed I was wrong on this. I took a laptop out to the car. Shut off my phones WiFi and Bluetooth so as not to interfere. Connected to the Carlinkit dongle using WiFi on my laptop (PW: 12345678) and used the browser to attach to the web interface. Was able to confirm the Carlinkit correctly recognizes Kia's 10.25" screen as 1920x720. Which means maybe a current Android Auto limitation? Searching that up now.
 

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Probably an Android limitation all right. Yes, I can confirm that Carplay gives a Full, proper screen for maps, music and everything. It's quite nice having the extra mapping on the sides as opposed to the old style square screens. Carplay also has a very nice split screen mode as well.
I have, on occassion had it hang a little while connecting, but usually it will resolve itself after driving for a while...I've only had to do full pull the plug and reset a couple times since I've had it.

It's not perfect, but it works very well and I am quite satisfied with the performance.
Guess you need to get an iPhone...lol
 

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Just found there was an update available for the Carlinkit from a month ago. I've applied it and will update if anything has changed, or not changed for that matter.

I'm going to update and perform a complete factory reset to give it the best possible chances of doing well.
 

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After the 07/30 update I just performed things look much improved for Audible. But Chirp Books continues to have frequent audio dropouts. every 4-5 seconds. So not all is corrected but will update again after a week and see if what the result of the rest of the update is.
 

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Well I guess I didn't update cause I stopped using the thing. Just easier to plug in than to deal with the inconsistencies with it. Will continue to try it after updates but hasn't been one since August I think.

My 'AA Wireless' arrived and I set it up today. Some initial problems connecting it. Only to find out that an update was long overdue (1.12.0 to 2.10.0) and they don't do an update as part of the initial setup. So three failed attempts to connect the thing. Discovered Updates in the Android App. Immediately after the update rebooted the thing and it was connected. So if you get one, update it before attempting to connect it. The update was over phone data. Which was nice cause the CarlinKit did not let you do it that way as far as I know. Updating the CarlinKit was a lot of hoop jumping.

Initial thoughts with only a short time with it. Audible no audio dropouts. Feels faster than the CarlinKit. And the experience is more true to the experience when plugged in. With the CarlinKit, if you look at the pictures up above, it stretched the image rather than a true 1:1 resolution. The AA Wireless is as far as I can tell exactly like plugging it in with a cable.

Give me a week and I'll post a proper review.
 

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Keep in mind, the AA Wireless discussed below is specifically an Android Auto device. Not sure if it does CarPlay. But there are plenty of good CarPlay options out there, including the CarlinKit.

Let's still use it the week before the official review, but in short, to slow anyone jumping at picking one up here's a quick update.

Not sure I'll be able to recommend the AA Wireless.

The good.
  • Exactly like plugging it in with a cable, which the CarlinKit wasn't.
  • Fast. Fast connection. Fast response. Faster for sure than the CarlinKit.
  • May be completely crazy but the audio quality almost sounds better than BT/wired/or the CarlinKit. Might be what I was listening to. Before the review, I'll plug in the cable again and the CarlinKit and see if maybe it's just a placebo effect. I suspect a placebo effect.
The bad.
  • Whereas the CarlinKit would have frequent audio dropouts in certain apps (Audible most notably), but not all, the AA Wireless frequently loses connection with the phone entirely (I'm using a flagship from a few years back, a Note 9, a little older but not a cheap phone). You'll be driving along and the audio will stop and a pop-up will say the phone isn't responding. It may be fine for a half-hour drive, or it may be a continuous lost connection back again lost connection back again lost connection back again and today on the way home it lost connection and just never came back for the remaining ten minutes of the drive. Not sure what the heck is going on. Will see what I can find over the week.
  • The CarlinKit would release your phone as soon as you turned the engine off. But the AA Wireless, because the data port in the KIA is always powered, holds on to that connection for an unacceptable amount of time. I blame KIA for this. The always-on data port was a dumb idea, likely intended for software updates. But dumb just the same. Ought to be disable-able.
Ultimately, if I can work out the constant phone disconnections, the AA Wireless would be perfection, but until I find the cause and correct it I can't recommend it.

Very frustrating.
 

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Good news on the AA Wireless from. Tech support appears to have corrected at least one of the issues with recommending some different settings. Driven three times since the change and had no disruptions. Will go a few more days to make certain the issue is completely clear before doing a Review.

Changes they had me make were set wireless from 'Auto' channel select to specifying '149' and for the powered-on USB port issue, they had me set the AA Wireless settings to 'Dongle Mode'. Not sure if that has made a difference yet.

On a side note, Support was good. Submitted a ticked Friday night I believe, and got an auto-response saying they'd be contacting me during business hours Monday to Friday. By the time I got up Monday morning my response with recommendations was already in my inbox. Good Job AA Wireless.
 

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Hi everyone i own Kia seltos GTX Indian model yesterday i brought carlink kit 4.0 for wireless Android auto and unfortunately screen is streched and it looks ugly when compared to wired Android auto kindly please help can we change screen of wireless Android auto same like wired Android auto
 

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I posted some pictures of exactly that when I did my original review of the CarlinKit 4.0. I never did find a solution. I'm still hopeful they figure it out with a firmware update but updating the damn thing is a pain as well.

In the meantime, I switched to 'AA Wireless'. It doesn't have the 'stretched' quirk, connects as fast as wired, pretty much responds exactly as if wired, and updates over the air.

There are some quirks I had to work out, and another I've yet to work out. I had planned to do a review after a week but ironing out the quirks has proven difficult in the little time I've had. When I make a change in hopes of correcting something, it may take a few days to confirm whether the issue is resolved or unresolved. I will say tech support has been great. They're always quick to respond. One issue is all but resolved. Anther they offered guidance on but to be honest, I'm not entirely sure I clearly understood the recommendation so I'm not sure if I messed up the fix or if it just didn't fix.

Between the two, I think the AA Wireless, even with its quirks, is in my opinion more promising for Android Auto specifically.
 
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