[timdesborough61]

Well ok, you have front and rear camera's built into this car.
What's stopping KIA from adding a record function and using the usb connection ?
It would help in accident/police investigations, and recording idiots doing stupid things in cars.
As most people use Dashcams, why cant we use the cams the car comes with ?
Thoughts ?

 

[SHCS]

Complete speculation but, front camera likely isn't the kind of camera the rear is. Cameras used for 'detection' often don't show an image the way you might expect. It grabs edges and such. Its not uncommon to see a black background with red edge detection lines or dots.

Again, speculation on my part, but the image the front camera likely detects will be more like the red or green images in the below image.

That being said, your argument remains relevant. It would be a buying point. Absolutely. It would be pretty high on my list of wanted features. As it is I'm researching three-channel camera setups.

 

[timdesborough61]

good point, also there's plenty of room in the housing for another camera to fit in, even if its just for a dashcam. When you can fit a high res high pixel 4k camera in a mobile phone I cant see why it cant be done, and you're correct, it's a great selling point and I dont think has been done in any car yet. Make this a first for Kia owners Kia/Hyundia !

 

[Speedtek22]

As SHCS already mentioned, the integrated lane detection cameras are not designed with this purpose in mind, nor would they provide a useful image. Kia would need to integrate a dedicated camera for this purpose. The additional heat and components under the existing cover would most likely be prohibitive for implementation of this feature (in it's current form) and the cover would end up being a lot larger.
There are vehicles that utilize factory cameras for recording, Tesla does this with all their cameras, even when parked Tesla Sentry Mode

 

[SHCS]

It's also not just the camera that has to be taken into consideration. Its storage. An obvious solution you may think would be a dedicated SD card for storage, but that won't be what they do. They're going to link it to service subscriptions like part of the top tier KiaConnect ... you know like a bunch of assholes. Why do the right thing for a client/buyer if there's money to be made?

But there's more to it than even that, the Infotainment system provider would need to be looped in. They'd be responsible for all the software side of things. In fact, I suspect it'd be the software providers that bring this to the table before the individual vehicle manufacturers demand it. It'll likely be the Infotainment providers going to the manufacturers and saying hey, we have this available now, it'll make you this over the ten-year lifespan of a vehicle, we think it's the future and the brands are gonna go 'sign us up'.

With Tesla setting the example I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this is commonplace in as little as 5 years. It'd certainly be a relatively cheap feature add-on that would draw buyers, provided you're the first mainstream to implement it. Tesla I still consider niche, until they have a finger in the pie of each market from subcompact to full-size trucks ... niche. I'm aware of Tesla's 'Sentry Mode'. Not sure how they're handling it. Service? Or can you export yourself?

 

[timdesborough61]

This sort of goes along with a whole black box recorder, what hasn't that been done for cars ?. There has been plenty of fatalities where the last few minutes of an accident would have been invaluable in determining what happened.
So ok, I small camera would easily fit into the housing behind the rear view mirror, next to the car computer camera, I've seen the space in there, you only need the camera module, the rest of it can be integrated into the infotainment unit with a sd card port or to the existing usb port. Take a feed off it, integrate the rear camera feed, integrate the other car sensors feed, send to storage device and you have a basic black box recorder.
So sell it as a service, there would be people willing to pay instead of having an ugly dashcam and cable suction cupped to the screen.
It's still not a bad idea.

 

[Speedtek22]

This sort of goes along with a whole black box recorder, what hasn't that been done for cars ?. There has been plenty of fatalities where the last few minutes of an accident would have been invaluable in determining what happened.

LOL...they do, you just don't know it. All modern vehicles have this feature built into the ECU or OBDII system, but it isn't something they advertise because people get stinky about their privacy and the capability of police to may or may not download this proprietary info.

So ok, I small camera would easily fit into the housing behind the rear view mirror, next to the car computer camera, I've seen the space in there, you only need the camera module, the rest of it can be integrated into the infotainment unit with a sd card port or to the existing usb port. Take a feed off it, integrate the rear camera feed, integrate the other car sensors feed, send to storage device and you have a basic black box recorder.
So sell it as a service, there would be people willing to pay instead of having an ugly dashcam and cable suction cupped to the screen.
It's still not a bad idea.

I installed a mini Garmin in mine and it is VERY unobtrusive (from the driver or passenger seat you can barely see it, this is a shot from right up near the front of the dash). It's easy to remove microSD cards for downloads (or connect on it's wifi, which never seems to work right for me). Plus if anything goes wrong with it or I want to upgrade, I just replace it.
Integrated is nice, but it has drawbacks...

 

[NumbNuts]

Well ok, you have front and rear camera's built into this car.
What's stopping KIA from adding a record function and using the usb connection ?
It would help in accident/police investigations, and recording idiots doing stupid things in cars.
As most people use Dashcams, why cant we use the cams the car comes with ?
Thoughts ?

Excellent question. More than likely they'll make that an option in the near future. I have a dashcam on my Seltos now.